Tuesday, June 11, 2019

Service time and Hubbard and PTSD disorder


For what it is worth, knowing his mercenary needs from comments by his editor long ago, my interest in the curious career of Ron Hubbard has been zero.  Yet this report from DR Ken Sutter shook something from the tree that is important.  I will actually need to review his efforts.

Hubbard's undistinguished navel career put him in position to meet ample PTSD victims in the post war era and from that to have an active interest in helping.  Thus his dianetics actually has a meaningful genesis in empirical inquiry that could lead naturally to a working protocol and a need for a support community all of which directly leads to Scientology.  Who would have thought?

The other  axis of Scientology is the claim that extraterrestrial spirits are trapped in Earth bodies.  This is exactly the information passed from the Roswell alien survivor in 1947 and is classic Naval scuttlebutt that he could well have been told and he was an officer welcome in the Officer's club.   Recall that we recently reviewed the entire transcript of the 1947 first alien interrogation and that represents our first real alien communication.

In the time and place Hubbard found a way to promote a body of knowledge that he had reason to think was true.  I am able to confirm the one and Doc Sutter has confirmed the second.  Thus we now know that a protracted program of 'confrontation ' therapy can ultimately resolve PTSD.

Ken Sutter has left a new comment on your post "The US Army Asked Twitter How Service Has Impacted...":

Firebase medic 4th Inf. Div. "B" battery 4/42 artillery. Cambodia Northern incursion May 8th thru May 20th. 

Grunt Medic with 1/7th Air cav. Iron Triangle northwest if Saigon. 

Returned Feb 1971 was physically ill by November. Spent the next 33 years, 9 months, 14 days and 4 hours sick. Once healthy another 10 years to get MY life back. A long, long road.

First. physical problems. Detox, detox, detox. 

Second can be done along with the first. Anti-parasite program. Minimum a year. Maintenance every third day for 10 years. 

Third. Candida cleanse. At least two.

Mentally. Confrontational therapy. Lots of different names for that. Emotional release technic and others. I used Hubbard's "Dianetics" to get a full grasp of how a mind works and his book "Self Analysis" to eliminate the PTSD. It took daily confrontation for six months to eliminate the PTSD.
For those who don't know. Real PTSD is just as bad, if not worse, than the physical problems. You are literally living in Hell. 

[ This is the first reported full resolution of PTSD that i have seen and fully justify the long drawn out therapy.  CBD can now assist this therapy as well with additional healing if physical damage is involved - arclein ]

Other considerations: Hyperawareness. It doesn't go all the way away so you have to learn to minimize it. 

ESP: Yeah, you can read other peoples minds and listen to their trivial chatter. Not fun.

Spiritual: You are changed at a soul level. The original you is gone and will never return.  [ I find this shocking and concerning.  I knew the core  spirit withdraws when you get drunk and this allows less desirable spirits to play.  It may be possible to recover it through meditation and perhaps the direct help of a master.  arclein ]

Rejection, rejection, rejection. 

To rely on the VA or any government agency to help you is pure folly. The drug companies own the show there and they WILL kill you. 

I taught this stuff for about 10 years and saved a bunch of Vietnam Vets. But the vet has trouble listening to any authority figure because its those guys that got us killed and ruined. 

There's much more to all this but this outline will have to do. 

Excellent article and truly heartbreaking stuff. 

Thanks for posting. 

Doc S

[  I know you are one of two that resolved Agent Orange liver cancer from Nam.  Let us get your spirit re-invited back in. arclein ]

When L. Ron Hubbard commanded a U.S. military vessel during WWII, he almost started an armed conflict with Mexico by mistake

Nov 30, 2017 Domagoj Valjak

Certain celebrities, including Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, and Beck, are active members of the Church of Scientology, a religious and corporate movement founded by Lafayette Ronald Hubbard. Scientology has obtained legal recognition as a religion in some countries, but its strange and controversial beliefs remain a hot topic for discussion.

Basically, the Church of Scientology propagates the idea that humans are actually immortal, spiritual extraterrestrials who are currently trapped in mortal terrestrial bodies. The belief system of Scientology resembles the plot of a cheesy science-fiction story, probably because its founder wrote dozens of such stories before deciding to turn one of them into a sacred scripture for his new religion.

The contemporary Church of Scientology teaches its members that L. Ron Hubbard, who died in 1986, was a figure somewhat larger than life. According to Scientologists, he was a child prodigy who could ride a horse before he could even walk, read, or write, all before the age of four. Also, he was a nuclear physicist, a pioneering explorer, and an extremely versatile artist.

Furthermore, Scientology teachings frequently emphasize Hubbard’s military career in World War II. He was allegedly an influential and respected war hero who received 21 campaign medals and a Purple Heart for being gravely wounded in combat. However, the official U.S. Naval Reserve records tell a story that is radically different from such grandiose claims.

L. Ron Hubbard in Los Angeles, California.

Hubbard indeed served in the U.S. Navy from 1941 to 1950, but his military career was not very spectacular. His official record states that “his military performance was, at times, substandard.” He spent most of his service on the continental United States, away from any battlefront, where he was performing administrative and training duties. He was stationed in Australia for several months but was sent back to the U.S. after disobeying his superiors. In 1942 and 1943, he commanded two anti-submarine vessels, the USS YP-422 and USS PC-815, in coastal waters off Massachusetts, Oregon, and California.

While he was in command of the USS PC-815, Hubbard was involved in two curious naval incidents. In May 1943, he reported that his vessel damaged and sank two Japanese submarines that surfaced off the coast of Oregon. His superiors couldn’t find proof that any submarines had been sunk anywhere near the place which Hubbard indicated; his claims were dismissed and it remains unknown whether the PC-815 ever actually encountered a Japanese submarine or if the encounter was fabricated by Hubbard. When Hubbard and his second-in-command were interviewed about their military careers in the late 1950s, they stated that the U.S. Navy officials intentionally chose to cover up the fact that two Japanese submarines were sunk very close to the U.S. mainland. According to them, the U.S. Navy did this to stop panic from spreading across the country.

Lts (jg) L. Ron Hubbard and Thomas S. Moulton in Portland, Oregon in 1943

The second incident for which Hubbard was responsible almost caused an armed conflict between the United States and Mexico. Namely, a mere month after claiming to have sunk two Japanese submarines, Hubbard unwittingly navigated the PC-815 into Mexican territorial waters off the coast of Coronado Islands. He mistakenly believed that the islands were uninhabited and situated within U.S. territory, so he conducted gunnery practice close to the islands.

No people were harmed, but the Mexican Army responded by threatening to attack any U.S. military vessels that would venture into their territory. The U.S. Navy promptly apologized and instantly relieved Hubbard of command. The official incident report stated that he was “unsuitable for independent duties and lacking in the essential qualities of judgment, leadership, and cooperation,” and he was forced to perform administrative tasks for the rest of his years in service.

The USS PC-815, Hubbard’s second and final command

Finally, Hubbard was awarded only four non-combat related campaign medals. His alleged 21 medals are a fabrication devised by the contemporary Church of Scientology. Also, since he never ventured close to any battlefield and was never wounded in combat, he never actually received a Purple Heart.

Hubbard was hospitalized in the late 1940s due to ulcers and severe conjunctivitis. Although a number of people have publicly exposed Hubbard as a charlatan and a pseudo-scientist and presented proof of many fabrications that were concocted by him and his followers, the Church of Scientology continues to thrive and many Scientologists still see him as a messianic figure and a visionary leader.

We hope you are enjoying The Vintage News. Please consider helping us with our journey to bring popular historical content to everyone by becoming a supporter today. Thanks.

1 comment:

Ken Sutter said...

No, you don't lose the soul. A more accurate way of saying that is the innocence is gone and you can never go back to who you thought you were before the experience. You can't un-see the blood, the screams, the sheer insanity and ugliness of it all. THAT changes you whether you are seeking change or not. The innocence is indeed gone.
But once you overcome all these things you are a better, bigger, more capable soul. Literally operating on a higher frequency than most. To be deliberately ignorant is no longer possible. Your capacity for compassion and empathy for you fellow man grows. Real, genuine love is now capable to flow through you. Instead of frustration that the average person can't understand you develop more compassion for them knowing they've been lied to also for their entire life. As well as 3-4 generations of mass poisoning affecting their thinking capabilities.
That's why "they" don't like us, why "they" try their best to eliminate us, why "they" have no workable answers to help the vets. "They" know we can see now and the last thing they want is someone who is wide awake and physically pure with no drugs or chemicals affecting the critical thinking apparatus. (And why chemical detox is number one on the recovery list).
The only drawback, and I'm sure you're aware of this, is that it isolates you from most of society. Thus a social life is all but impossible.
But even so I'm still here. Getting old and a bit tired from all the wars but still here just the same. Looking forward to going home. Back to my hometown that was so great before war happened to me.
Thanks for posting my response.
Doc S