Jet Thrust Fuel and 911

There comes a time in which it is proper to do inquisitive calculations in order to confirm the reality of what we accept as true.

To start with small early aircraft needed fuel storage and wings provided handy tankage.  Today we have a fuselage cross section that is truly large  This suggests ample room for tankage along the lowest deck zone under the cargo floor.   After all, it must be flat there and the fuselage arc is not. This also avoids serious pumping anytime the plane banked slightly.  In short, we want our fuel there.

Except we also do not want to tell you any of this.

These calculations aim at showing that the wings are implausible fuel tanks for these big birds.  In fact, they would likely be an engineering mistake.

Jet Thrust Fuel and 911

Source: Operation Disclosure Official | By Grant Ouellette, Contributing Writer

Submitted on September 10, 2024

“Jet Airliner” Steve Miller Band

Leavin’ home, out on the road, I’ve been down before

Ridin’ along on this big ol’ jet plane, I’ve been thinkin’ about my home

But my love light seems so far away, And I feel like it’s all been done

Somebody’s tryin’ to make me stay, You know I’ve got to be movin’ on

Oh, Oh big ol’ jet airliner, Don’t carry me too far away

Oh, Oh big ol’ jet airliner, Cause it’s here that I’ve got to stay

Goodbye to all my friends at home, Goodbye to people I’ve trusted

I’ve got to go out and make my way, I might get rich you know I might get n-busted

But my heart keeps calling me backwards, As I get on the 707

Ridin’ high I got n-tears in my eyes

You know you got to go through hell before you get to heaven

Big ol’ jet airliner, Don’t carry me too far away

Oh, Oh big ol’ jet airliner, Cause it’s here that I’ve got to stay

Touchin’ down in New England town, Feel the heat comin’ down

I’ve got to keep on keepin’ on

You know the big wheel keeps a spinnin’ around

And I’m goin’ with some m-hesitation

You know that I can surely see

That I don’t want to get caught up in any of that

Funky shit goin’ down in the city

Big ol’ jet airliner, Don’t carry me too far away

Oh, Oh big ol’ jet airliner, Cause it’s here that I’ve got to stay

Steve Miller- Jet Airliner with lyrics (youtube.com)

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First, in my continuing clean up for the Age of Aquarius, my base insanity included,

The Grant ‘Age of Pisces’ Awards

The Rock Music ‘Watch Out, Touch Monkeys’ Award goes to ‘The Talking Heads‘ for their 1984 concert film ‘Stop Making Sense’ which includes the song ‘Swamp’. Thank you Talking Heads David Byrne, Chris Frantz, Tina Weymouth and Jerry Harrison, and producer and band manager Gary Kurfirst, and director Jonathan Demme.

Talking Heads – Swamp HD (Original 1984 VHS Audio) (youtube.com)

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“beauties in solid motion”

Basis of Article

The Idea: Jets, ‘birdies in solid motion’, are powered by some sort of energy.

3 Parts or Subsets of the Idea:

Jets are powered by jet fuel only;

Jets are powered by jet fuel for take-off and then compressed gas once climbing is finished;

Jets are powered by something different from the above, for example, free energy or electro-magnetic propulsion devices.

Fantasy – the faculty or activity of imaging things, especially things that are impossible or improbable

If jets are not powered by liquid jet fuel, then any explanation for the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on 911 that includes ‘melted steel caused by burning jet fuel’ is fantasy.

There are many calculations herein for common sense: reasonability and, or plausibility tests or checks. For seeming simplicity, assumptions are made. This is my first go to understand this info. In this lifetime I have no jet design or jet maintenance experience.

Why Jets Fly at 30,000 to 39,000 Feet

Stratosphere 6 to 30 mile altitude or 10 to 50 km

Cloud Levels

Low-level below 6,500 feet or 1,981 m: cumulus, stratus, stratocumulus

Mid-level 6,500 to 20,000 feet or 6,096 m: altocumulus, altostratus

High-level above 20,000 feet: cirrus, cirrocumulus, cirrostratus

Thunderstorm or cumulonimbus clouds are found from 2,000 to 52,000 feet or 610 to 15,850 m

Some info herein from: Why Airplanes Fly at 30,000 feet | Aviation Coaching

After take-off a jet climbs for say 15 to 20 minutes to attain cruising altitude.

As a jet flies through it, the air is like a fluid with molecules rubbing the fuselage generating friction called drag which slows the plane. Thinner air with less molecules or density requires less thrust or fuel for a jet to pass through the same distance.

Smaller turboprop planes often fly between 25,000 and 30,000 feet (7,620 to 9,144 m) altitude.

Oxygen masks are necessary above 10,000 feet or 3,048 m, thus pressurized cabins.

Except for thunderstorms, most turbulent weather systems are avoided by flying above 35,000 feet, 10,668 m. Pilots decide whether to go through or around clouds and storms.

Rule of thumb: avoid bird, plane and drone collisions by flying at or above 10,000 feet, 3,048 m.

Altitude to Oxygen Chart – Oxygen Levels at Different Altitudes (milehightraining.com)

The oxygen part of air: sea level 20.9%, 10,000 feet 14.3%, 20,000 feet 9.7%, 30,000 feet 6.3%

At 30,000 feet there is only 30.1% as much air as at sea level.

At 30,000 feet a jet flying 3.3 times as the near surface speed ‘V’ will have the same air drag as the same jet flying ‘V’ just above the ground.

Jet Fuel Details?

Note that the tank in this smaller SkyMark truck trailer takes up less than half the trailer volume:

1 cubic foot is 1,728 cubic inches

1 US gallon has a volume of 231 cubic inches, 0.1337 cubic feet, 3.785 liters

inversely, 1 cubic foot is the volume of 7.48 US gallons, 28.32 L

Guesstimate of tank volume: width x height x length = (∏ x 1.6 x 1.6) x 3.2 x 10 = 257 cubic feet

257 x 7.48 = 1,924 gallon tank volume

Guesstimate of trailer volume: width x height x length = 6 x 6 x 16 = 576 cubic feet

tank volume compared to trailer volume: 257 / 576 = 45%

Other: hot water tanks have a glass container inside; since water will not squeeze into a smaller volume, your home water storage tanks use expanding rubber for 30 to 40 psi

From How Hot Does Jet Fuel Burn? | BitLux (flybitlux.com) Jet fuel weighs 6.47-7.01 pounds per US gallon at a temperature of 59 F. 1 pound equals 0.143-0.155 gallons. It is estimated that most commercial aircraft have a capacity for 5,000 – 100,000 gallons or 30,000–700,000 pounds of jet fuel.

Image from Empowering Better Humans Club – LOVE THE WATER YOU ARE IN (ebh.club)

Note: a 767 (911 fantasy plane) had 2 jet engines; the 4 engine jet above is for jet calculations herein.

Guesstimate of trailer volume: width x height x length = (∏ x 3 x 3) x 6 x 30 = 5,086 cubic feet

10,000 gallons x 0.1337 cubic feet/gallon = 1,337 cubic feet

% of above guesstimate of 5,086 cubic feet: 1,337/5,086 = 26.3% of trailer volume is the fuel tank

(Side calculation: 3.8 tankers x 26.3% = 99.94% round to 100% or 1)

Round that to 25% and multiply by the 4 trucks in the meme = 1 full truck volume of jet fuel

From the meme image, 1 wing does not seem to have enough volume to hold 1 full truck of jet fuel.

Compressed Air Theory

For thrust or reverse thrust (braking) the jets use kerosene or jet fuel to take off but once at a certain altitude thrust comes from tanks of compressed air.

Common sense: It is safer to burn the same jet fuel in a ground level building controlled environment in the manufacture of compressed air tanks and use those for plane propulsion than it is to transport the fuel and burn it inside a plane; also for insurance purposes.

Burning temperature of kerosene: 1814 F or 990 C in air

Burning temperature of jet fuel: 300 to 3000 F or 149 to 1661 C

Melting temperature of steel: 2370 to 2800 F or 1300 – 1540 C depending on composition

The 767 200 ER Jet has fuel capacity of 137,015 pounds or max of 16,700 US Gallons

check 137,015 / 16,700 = 8.2 pounds (? above the 7.01 figure given above)

A full 767 fuel would have a volume of 16,700 x 0.1337 = 2,232 cubic feet or 1,116 cf per wing

Based on the above diagrams of a 2 engine jet which is a 767 or similar,

the dimensions, including the wings, of a Boeing 767:

maximum takeoff weight 315,001 lbs 142,882 kg

maximum landing weight 271999 lbs 123377 kg

difference 43,002 lbs 19,505 kg

yet above fuel weight info is 137,015 pounds??? 31.4%? inconsistency non explained

wheelbase 64 feet 7.2 inches 19.69 m

tall height 52 feet 11 inches 16.13 m

exterior length 159 feet 1 inch 48.5 m

wingspan 47.57 m or 156 feet 1 inch (tip to tip) – almost the same as length

2 seating capacities: 174 includes first class, or 214 seats with no first class

cargo volume 3037.6 cubic feet 86.9 cubic meters

range 3900 nautical miles 4488 miles 7223 km

body width 16.5 feet; fuselage diameter = 16 feet 6 inches 5.03 m

cabin width 15.5 feet 4.72 m; cabin length 111 feet 4 inches 33.93 m

wing area 283.3 square m or 3,050 square ft (both top and bottom); 1,525 per wing; 762.5 square ft per wing top

For the rough calculation(s) below I assume that the fuelless flaps are 20% of the wing area and that the wing shape is a uniform rectangle, cuboid.

flapless area top of 1 wing = 762.5 x 80% = 610 square feet

a single wing length = (wingspan – body width) / 2 = (156 – 16.5)/2 = 69.8 feet or 21.3 m

the average wing width = area of 1 wing / length = 762.5 / 69.8 = 10.9 feet or 3.3 m

in an assumed cuboid wing shape: volume = area x height

no wing height is given in the websites I visited

If the wing held only jet fuel with a volume of 1,116 cubic feet per wing as above

the average wing height = volume / flapless wing area = 1,116 / 610 = 1.83 feet or 0.56 m

So, it is questionable whether the fuel would fit in the wings.

Does anyone see a fuel storage tank in the ‘FLIGHT’ opening image? The wing looks like it’s merely metal structure for support. There is something that might be a small tank where the wing meets the fuselage but I don’t see a place with enough volume for 1,116 cubic feet of fuel in one wing.

I am not sure what the tubular objects are near the wingtips.

A pressurized cabin can only come from a compressed air source.

Samuel Pressure Vessel Group manufactures custom air receiver tanks of 60,000 gallon capacity.

60 Gallon Vertical Air Tank with Feet & Top Plate, (13″ x 30), Overall 20″ x 48″, 200 PSI ASME Coded | A10044

Maximum pressure from a tank of compressed air: In regard to ratings, compressed air receiver tanks have a maximum pressure rating that is measured in psi (pounds per square inch) The most common ratings tend to range from 125psi to 150psi, although the normal pressure for air brake systems ranges from 20 to 173 psi or 138 to 173 kPa.

from Cylinder_Chart_ENG.pdf (airliquide.ca)

50 L 3051 cubic inches of liquid air in a tank weighs 147.7 pounds 67 kg 59 inches tall 1.5 m 9 inch diameter 0.229 m about the size of a slim 5 foot 10 inch man

2,960 or so-called 3000 L 780 cubic inches of liquid air in a tank weighs 4,806 pounds 2,180 kg 112 inches tall 2.85 m 59 inches in diameter 1.5 m

Formula for thrust: T = P x A

T = thrust in Newtons, P = pressure in Newtons/m x m, A = area in square meters or m x m

from wikipedia.com

Both 767 jet engine models had a maximum output of 48,000 pounds-force (210 kN) of thrust.

I square inch = 0.00064516 square m (inverse: 1,550.0 square inches in a 1 square m)

Using maximum number found above 200 PSI = 0.129032 pounds per square m

For T = 210 kN (kilo Newtons) or 210,000 N

and P = 200 x 0.129032 = 25.8 N / square m

A = T / P = 210,000 / 25.8 = 8,140 square meters

To achieve maximum output of 48,000 pounds-force or 210,000 N of thrust a compressed air tank of 200 PSI would have to have a valve opening of 8,140 square meters or 87,618 square feet which is 90 m by 90 m or almost 300 feet by 300 feet.

There is no way compressed air at 200 PSI can produce thrust similar to a jet engine.

From The Top 10 FAQs About Compressed Air – Fun Facts About Compressed Air (vmacair.com)

Compressed air is a popular energy source for many reasons. The main benefits of using air compressors and compressed air are: cheap, safe when used properly, versatility, compact and easy to move.

Compressed air accounts for about 10% of the global energy currently used.

Jet Pack flying requires equipment seemingly too large to be adapted to a jet plane.

Conclusion

The public has been misled regarding jet planes. Jet fuel storage tanks and structures to support their weight appear to require more volume than that available in the wings, so they must be using another energy source, perhaps free energy devices.

Regarding 911 theories, no or little jet fuel in 767s means no melting steel on 911.

Besides, there were no planes, so no jet fuel:

www.rumormillnews.com/mp4/no-plane.mp4

128 x 9 x 125 = 144,000