AZt least this has a chance and is not an outright exercise in misdirection. It is 2026. The obfuscation began around 1950. that is 75 years of not letting science work.
75 years is a long time to play the fool.
White House Creates a UAP Science Council
Avi Loeb
ges credit: NewsNation)
Below is a transcript of an interview I just had with Elizabeth Vargas on NewsNation. Her questions are labeled below by EV and my answers by AL. The video of the conversation is available here:
https://avi-loeb.medium.com/white-house-creates-a-uap-science-council-acfa3fcc3538
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EV: The White House has recently established a UAP Science Advisory Council. The scientist leading that advisory council, Professor Avi Loeb, joins me now. Among many titles, he had been the director of Harvard’s Institute for Theory and Computation, and wrote the book Extraterrestrial.
Avi, Welcome back. What is your job as the person in charge of this council? Are you guys going to finally explain what these objects are in these videos, or what? Are you going to get to the bottom of it all?
AL: Thanks for having me. That’s exactly the intention. On the same day that the third UAP batch was released, Steven Spielberg released his film, Disclosure Day, but I think it’s much more interesting to live through reality rather than follow the artistic freedom displayed in Spielberg’s script. Frankly, my car was not crashed against a moving train as you see in the film. The government is actually cooperating with me and other scientists, and that’s very exciting because it means that indeed there are objects they cannot figure out. If they were suspecting that these objects are definitely human made, they would have expressed that opinion in a confidential memo to the Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, rather than sharing it with the public and asking scientists to help them.
EV: How are you going to figure out what these things are?
AL: By following the evidence. We need to keep our eyes on the orbs, not on the audience. By the audience I mean social media, where people express opinions. Instead, by collecting better data with better sensors, analyzing it with the latest AI software, we can make progress. And we can advise the U.S. government on how to collect new data.
At the very least, the down-to-earth interpretation of these objects is that they are human made and therefore a potential national security threat. If they are produced by adversarial nations, we have holes in our defense system of the US, and there needs to be a higher priority given to figuring out Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP). In the process of getting better data and figuring them out, we might realize that one of the objects is not human made. It’s sufficient to have one such object in order for that to be the biggest discovery ever made by humanity.
EV: When you say follow the evidence, is the only evidence these videos, or is there other evidence, such as witness’ testimony? Is there even tangible scientific evidence?
AL: It needs to be evidence from multiple sensors, so we are sure that the objects are real and not optical illusions. We need to figure out their distance, velocity and acceleration to be convinced that they lie outside the performance envelope of human-made technologies. Finally, if there is any material, and that could include biological material, from crush sites of unidentified objects, it would be very useful in scientific analysis.
It’s not clear what the government exactly has, because the most interesting data is probably still classified. But we can nudge the government in the direction of disclosure. There is definitely willingness to cooperate.
My interpretation of the classification is that in the past the intelligence agencies and the Pentagon preferred not to be scrutinized for not figuring out the nature of UAP. That may have led them to justify classification. Also, some of the data was collected by classified sensors. And finally, they didn’t want adversarial nations to be aware of holes in the defense system and vulnerabilities of our strategic assets. But now, there is a completely different mindset following President Trump’s directive, and we are all trying to figure it out together, in cooperation.
I hope that the suspicion about the government hiding things will be forgotten if we get to the moment of finding indisputable evidence for non-human made objects.
EV: Well, you know that’s not going to happen, Avi. It goes for decades, and here’s the problem. A lot of people who do, or claim to, have inside knowledge, say that some of this stuff is so classified and is in the hands of defense contractors, and has been for decades, that even the President of the United States doesn’t know fully what’s going on, what we have and what we’re doing. So, I’m hoping you guys have success in all of this, but aren’t you going to run up against the same roadblocks every single other person has run up against in trying to figure out what those things are? If UAP are extraterrestrial, these classified concrete walls that have been erected by the government, or more importantly the defense contracting industry will block you.
AL: Anyone with specific knowledge is welcome to bring it to my attention, and we will do our best to get to these materials or evidence. I just don’t buy it that the future must be as boring and depressing as the past. I’m an optimist, and given the willingness of the current administration to cooperate, let’s give it a shot and do our best.
Altogether, we should celebrate this moment rather than be frustrated by the past. I would be delighted to speak with you in several months and discuss the progress we are making.
EV: We would like nothing more, Avi, than to have you come back to the show and tell us what you have found, so consider that your invitation.
Avi Loeb, along with all your other incredible titles, we will now add `Optimist’, `Eternal Optimist’, to them. So, thanks Avi.
AL: Thank you. The best is yet to come.
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