Tuesday, August 4, 2015

Clinton is of Two Minds about Iran Nuke Deal

 
 
It we take the public statements made by Iranian public figures and simply ignore them and instead look at their actions we have proactive financing of external Shiite   groups as may well be expected and a secret effort to achieve nuclear capability.   They do not appear to have started hostilities themselves at all but have certainly participated then.  Even the Iraqi War was an Iraqi attack and they ultimately lost that by been bled to exhaustion.


In short, their actions have been measured which is not something one can call their allies or enemies.  It may be possible to do business with them in the hope that wiser heads will ultimately rework the political life of Iran.


Their rhetoric has never been measured and we must ask the question of why?  I want to say that i do not know what i do not know here and would welcome wisdom on the actual weight we should give it.  Both North Korea and Iran are asking for a preemptive strike of the most savage kind aimed at neutralizing all possible nuclear ambitions.  They may simply not mean it. .
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Clinton is of two minds about Iran nuke deal
Jul 17, 2015 | By Martin Barillas
 http://www.speroforum.com/a/ZCTENOPKUD6/76181-Clinton-is-of-two-minds-about-Iran-nuke-deal
Speaking Tehran on July 17, Iranian Ayatollah Mohammad Ali Movahedi Kermani told worshippers that Iran will accept the deal recently worked out by President Barack Obama and allies only if sanctions are lifted immediately. In addition, said the cleric, Iran’s frozen revenues amounting to billions of dollars must be returned. The revolutionary ideals of Iran’s Islamic Republic must be preserved he said. Kermani added that the co-signers of the accord are untrustworthy, having made excessive demands that are an “insult.” According to Kermani, some of the terms of the agreement have not yet been met.
According to the July 14 accord, sanctions on Iran will be gradually lifted in return for a promise that Iran will accept curbs on its nuclear program. Iran has long been suspected of harboring a nuclear weapons program under the guise of an atomic energy program for civilian purposes. Speaking in a radio address, Kermani said  "Iranians should accept a deal only if our rights and all the red lines are preserved and the Islamic Revolution's ideals, especially the fight against global arrogance, are not put aside and forgotten. All cruel sanctions should be lifted immediately, all blocked revenues should be released and no damage should be done to our Islamic and national pride." Kermani said the Western side of the negotiations had been defeated, saying "With the wise efforts of the honorable (Ed. Note: Iranian) president and the untiring efforts and strong logic of the negotiating team in the negotiating arena, the opposite side was forced to retreat and accept just speech and acknowledge the rights of Iranians."
The cleric also said, "Israel and its allies, especially Saudi Arabia, are extremely unhappy about this deal, and this is the best proof to show how valuable the deal is. As Iran's martyred cleric, Beheshti, used to say, 'Let them be angry and die from their anger'."
Even while President Barack Obama has given assurances that the Iraian deal is a signature diplomatic triumph, others are not so certain. While Obama has wide support in Congress among members of his party, support for the plan was not universal. Current Democrat presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton said in response to the deal, "Do I trust the Iranians?" Clinton said. "Absolutely not." However, the former secretary of state has largely been supportive of the agreement that was reached by the U.S. in concert with five other powers.  Clinton admitted that critics of the deal have "a respectable argument." Even so, Clinton repeated her contention that it was the best deal that could be achieved. Later one, she said, "No one should be deluded about the continuing threat that Iran poses to the region." As president, Clinton said, her position on Iran would be "Don't trust, and verify," and said that inspections and extensive monitoring should be used to ensure compliance.  
Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said she supports the accord. On July 16, she said "I'm very optimistic about our vote of support for the president."
As for Republicans, Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said on July 16 that it is "pretty clear" that a majority of members of Congress oppose the deal.  Obama has said he will veto Republican opposition to the deal. To override Obama’s veto, an unlikely two-thirds vote of both houses of Congress would be required. 
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