Firstly what we see is hardly socialism as seen elsewhere but well thought out programs that actually work. The Government does not operate steel mills in order to attempt to pay for it.
What is wrong here is that they think that a high rate of taxation is necessary. They are clearly on the wrong side of the Laffer curve. I do think that bringing the tax bite down to USA levels will rapidly expand incomes and the tax take to match the outlay. After all direct costs will not rise easily and incomes will. The process can even be done ten percent per year allowing slow adjustment.
My central point is that social programs are not a liability is positioned properly and i do think that Scandinavia needs to rework its tax code entirely in order to sharply expand its economy.
The High Cost of Scandinavian “Socialism”
https://bongino.com/the-high-cost-of-scandinavian-socialism/
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lifelong socialist, Bernie Sanders decided to do some rebranding during
his 2016 presidential campaign. No longer was he a socialist, he’s now a
“democratic-socialist” (which I suppose sounds better). “When I talk
about democratic socialism, I’m not looking at Venezuela. I’m not
looking at Cuba. I’m looking at countries like Denmark and Sweden.”
Bernie declared during the presidential primaries.
I’ll ignore the fact that Bernie has consistently praised Cuba in the past, and in 2011 wrote
that “These days, the American dream is more apt to be realized in
South America, in places such as Ecuador, Venezuela and Argentina,” and
turn my attention towards his new model for socialism: Scandinavia.
Scandinavian “Socialism”: The Offerings
It must first be clarified that Scandinavian countries (Sweden, Denmark, and Norway) are not socialist. They are capitalist countries that impose excessive levels of taxation on their citizens to fund a wide array of social programs. Those programs include:
Scandinavian “Socialism”: The Cost
The large welfare states of Scandinavia are not without their cost. In 2017, all three countries had levels of taxation exceeding half of every dollar earned. Taxes as a percent of GDP are:
In America, an earner isn’t subject to the top tax bracket of 37% until they earn over $500,000. While an American would need to earn eight times the average income to be subject to our top tax bracket, the figures are only 1.5 times average income in Sweden, 1.6 in Norway, and 1.3 in Denmark (source: pages 30-31).
So, how would America’s tax system look if it were more like Scandinavia’s?
Scandinavians Perform Better in America Than in Scandinavia
The success of Scandinavian economies is despite their generous tax-and-spend policies, not because of them. You can thank the Scandinavian work ethic for their success – not the laws of economics being suspended.
There are over 10 million Americans with Scandinavian ancestry (most of which are the descendants of immigrants), and they far economically outperform their counterparts across the Atlantic.There is, unfortunately, a lack of global household income data, and thus, the most recent information available is from a 2013 Gallup study of global household incomes. They found the median household incomes, purchasing power adjusted to be the following in 2012:
And the real kicker? These figures are not adjusted for differences in taxation. Not only do Scandinavian Americans far outperform Scandinavians economically, but they also get to keep a larger chunk of a larger pie.
Scandinavian “Socialism”: The Offerings
It must first be clarified that Scandinavian countries (Sweden, Denmark, and Norway) are not socialist. They are capitalist countries that impose excessive levels of taxation on their citizens to fund a wide array of social programs. Those programs include:
- “Free” government funded healthcare through single-payer healthcare systems
- Generous government funded maternal and paternal leave
- Heavily subsidized higher education, free of tuition to all students (and in Norway, to international students as well)
- Generous paid sick leave
Scandinavian “Socialism”: The Cost
The large welfare states of Scandinavia are not without their cost. In 2017, all three countries had levels of taxation exceeding half of every dollar earned. Taxes as a percent of GDP are:
- 50.7% in Sweden
- 53.5% in Denmark
- 54.7% in Norway
In America, an earner isn’t subject to the top tax bracket of 37% until they earn over $500,000. While an American would need to earn eight times the average income to be subject to our top tax bracket, the figures are only 1.5 times average income in Sweden, 1.6 in Norway, and 1.3 in Denmark (source: pages 30-31).
So, how would America’s tax system look if it were more like Scandinavia’s?
- If the U.S. tax code was as flat as Denmark’s, someone earning roughly $70,000 would face a top marginal tax rate of 46.3% (source: page 30). That’s simply the first layer of taxation, as all Scandinavian countries have a 25% value-added tax on purchases (the equivalent of a sales tax).
- Even after accounting for the dollar value of transfer payments and other government benefits, a single-income couple earning the average wage with two children will pay an average personal income tax rate of 22% in the Nordic countries (counting government transfers as a negative tax), as compared to a rate of 14.2% in the United States. Across all family types, the average American family earning the average wage would pay $2,000-$5,000 more in taxes each year (net of the value of any transfer payments) than a Nordic family. Note that this comparison is of Nordic countries (Scandinavia plus Finland and Iceland). (Source: page 31).
- 31% lower in Denmark than in the United States
- 32% lower in Sweden than in the United States
- 18% lower in Norway than in the United States
Scandinavians Perform Better in America Than in Scandinavia
The success of Scandinavian economies is despite their generous tax-and-spend policies, not because of them. You can thank the Scandinavian work ethic for their success – not the laws of economics being suspended.
There are over 10 million Americans with Scandinavian ancestry (most of which are the descendants of immigrants), and they far economically outperform their counterparts across the Atlantic.There is, unfortunately, a lack of global household income data, and thus, the most recent information available is from a 2013 Gallup study of global household incomes. They found the median household incomes, purchasing power adjusted to be the following in 2012:
- Norway: $51,489
- Sweden: $50,514
- Denmark: $44,360
- Norwegian American $62,155 (21% higher)
- Swedish American $62,295 (23% higher)
- Danish American $63,630 (43% higher)
And the real kicker? These figures are not adjusted for differences in taxation. Not only do Scandinavian Americans far outperform Scandinavians economically, but they also get to keep a larger chunk of a larger pie.
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