The whole global warming meme could never survive the problem of perspective. That arose here as well. The great news is that Trump proved to be properly informed on the issue as Leslie Stall was not and she was unable to bob and weave.
What i have always noted was that for one million years ending with the Pleistocene nonconformity 12,900 years BP, climate variation was +/- 5 degrees. After that it converged down to +/- 2 degrees. This was sufficient to allow for agriculture in the uplands and even in alpine ranges.
For that +/- 2 degrees to experience a statistical breakout, the range would have to shift a degree or so and do it for a sustained period measuring centuries. That could be possible with reforestation of the Sahara and the entire Middle East. You really have to think big. In order to do that it becomes useful to increase the available CO2
My point though is that decadal shifts of significance are still not significant at all in terms of a global perspective. I am gratified that essentially Trump knows this. It is not possible to determine long term direction unless we do reforest.
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Analysis: Trump KO’s ’60 Minutes’ on ‘climate
change’ – Trump’s skeptical remarks were ‘scientifically, politically
and economically accurate’
http://www.climatedepot.com/2018/10/14/analysis-trump-kos-60-minutes-on-climate-change-trumps-skeptical-remarks-were-scientifically-politically-and-economically-accurate/
The mainstream media once again attempted to challenge
President Donald Trump on “climate change,” but Trump emerged unscathed
by refuting typical climate claims with accurate and remarkably
scientific comments in an October 14, 2018, 60 Minutes interview. (Even
the mainstream media acknowledged Trump’s overall interview victory:
A Climate Depot analysis finds that President Trump’s climate remarks
were scientifically, politically and economically accurate. Finally,
the United States has a president who understands “global warming”! See:
Full climate transcript: Trump: Scientists who promote ‘climate’ fears ‘have a very big political agenda’ – [As Variety noted,
Trump understands how to battle the mainstream media: Reporter Lesley
Stahl asked Trump about “the scientists who say [the effects of climate
change are] worse than ever,” but was [she] unprepared to cite one;
knowing, now, that the human factor will not work on Trump, a
broadcaster should be prepared to cite hard facts in a faceoff with the
President.]
President Trump to 60 Minutes: “I think something’s
happening. Something’s changing and it’ll change back again,” he said.
“I don’t think it’s a hoax. I think there’s probably a difference. But I
don’t know that it’s manmade. I will say this: I don’t want to give
trillions and trillions of dollars. I don’t want to lose millions and
millions of jobs.” … “I’m not denying climate change,” he said in the
interview.
Reality Check: President Trump is frankly giving his
assessment of man-made climate change and his understanding is in
agreement with some very high profile scientists. Trump has been
remarkably consistent with his climate views, demanding that the “The Nobel committee should take the Nobel Prize back from Al Gore” in the wake of the Climategate revelations in 2010.
Trump is also correct on so-called climate “solutions” costing “trillions and trillions” of dollars. See: ‘GLOBAL WARMING’ ‘SOLUTIONS” COULD COST $122 TRILLION & Bjorn Lomborg on UN climate deal: ‘This is likely to be among most expensive treaties in the history of the world’
The peer-reviewed scientific literature is also bolstering Trump’s comments: 368 New 2018 Papers Support A Skeptical Position On Climate Claims
Prominent scientists agree with President Trump:
Nobel Prize-winning physicist Dr. Ivar Giever told the new book, “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change,” that “The Earth has existed for maybe 4.5 billion years, and now the alarmists will have us believe that because of the small rise in temperature for roughly 150 years (which, by the way, I believe you cannot really measure) we are doomed unless we stop using fossil fuels…You and I breathe out at least thirty tons of CO2 in a normal lifespan, but nevertheless, the Environmental Protection Agency decided to classify rising carbon-dioxide emissions as a hazard to human health.”
The claim here is that carbon dioxide can have a warming impact on the atmosphere, but this does not mean CO2 is the control knob of the climate. As the University of London professor emeritus Philip Stott has noted: “The fundamental point has always been this. Climate change is governed by hundreds of factors, or variables, and the very idea that we can manage climate change predictably by understanding and manipulating at the margins one politically-selected factor (CO2), is as misguided as it gets.” “It’s scientific nonsense,” Stott added. Even the global warming activists at RealClimate.org acknowledged this in a September 20, 2008 article, stating, “The actual temperature rise is an emergent property resulting from interactions among hundreds of factors.”
Atmospheric scientist Hendrik Tennekes, a pioneer in development of numerical weather prediction and former director of research at the Netherlands’ Royal National Meteorological Institute, has declared (as quoted in my book): “I protest vigorously the idea that the climate reacts like a home heating system to a changed setting of the thermostat: just turn the dial, and the desired temperature will soon be reached.”
Richard Lindzen, an MIT climate scientist, said that believing CO2 controls the climate “is pretty close to believing in magic.” Climate Depot revealed the real way they find the “fingerprint” of CO2.
“We are creating great anxiety without it being justified … there are no indications that the warming is so severe that we need to panic,” award-winning climate scientist Lennart Bengtsson said. “The warming we have had the last 100 years is so small that if we didn’t have meteorologists and climatologists to measure it we wouldn’t have noticed it at all.”
University of Pennsylvania Geologist Dr. Robert Giegengack noted in 2014, “None of the strategies that have been offered by the U.S. government or by the EPA or by anybody else has the remotest chance of altering climate if in fact climate is controlled by carbon dioxide.”
In layman’s terms: All of the so-called ‘solutions’ to global warming are purely symbolic when it comes to climate. So, even if we actually faced a climate catastrophe and we had to rely on a UN climate agreement, we would all be doomed!
Renowned Princeton Physicist Freeman Dyson: ‘I’m 100% Democrat and I like Obama. But he took the wrong side on climate issue, and the Republicans took the right side’ – An Obama supporter who describes himself as “100 per cent Democrat,” Dyson is disappointed that the President “chose the wrong side.” Increasing CO2 in the atmosphere does more good than harm, he argues, and humanity doesn’t face an existential crisis. ‘What has happened in the past 10 years is that the discrepancies between what’s observed and what’s predicted have become much stronger.
Nobel Prize-Winning Scientist Dr. Ivar Giaever, Who Endorsed Obama Now Says Prez. is ‘Ridiculous’ & ‘Dead Wrong’ on ‘Global Warming’ – Nobel Prize Winning Physicist Dr. Ivar Giaever: ‘Global warming is a non-problem’ – ‘I say this to Obama: Excuse me, Mr. President, but you’re wrong. Dead wrong.’
‘Global warming really has become a new religion.’ – “I am worried very much about the [UN] conference in Paris in 2015…I think that the people who are alarmist are in a very strong position.’
Green Guru James Lovelock reverses belief in ‘global warming’: Now says ‘I’m not sure the whole thing isn’t crazy’ – Condemns green movement: ‘It’s a religion really, It’s totally unscientific’ – Lovelock rips scientists attempting to predict temperatures as ‘idiots’: “Anyone who tries to predict more than five to 10 years is a bit of an idiot, because so many things can change unexpectedly.” – Lovelock Featured in Climate Hustle – Watch Lovelock transform from climate fear promoter to climate doubter!
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Trump on 60 Minutes: Lesley Stahl tells Trump: “I wish you could go to Greenland, watch these huge chunks of ice just falling into the ocean, raising the sea levels.” – President Trump responds: “And you don’t know whether or not that would have happened with or without man. You don’t know.”
Reality Check: Once again, President Trump has peer-reviewed science on his side.
2017: Greenland Ice Mass Increases To Near Record#
Analysis of Greenland temperatures finds they ‘were just as high in 1930s & 40s as they have been in recent years’ – Recent Summer temps are lower – Summer ‘temperatures since 2000 for the main part are, if anything, lower then the 1930s and 40s’
Climatologists: ‘The death of the Greenland disaster story’ – ‘Taming the Greenland Melting Global Warming Hype’ – Climatologists: ‘Humans just can’t make it warm enough up there to melt all that much ice’
Study finds ice isn’t being lost from Greenland’s interior – Published in journal Science
New paper shows N. Greenland was warmer during the early 20th century (1920-1940) & during Medieval Warm Period
Defying Climate Models, Greenland Cooled By -1.5°C During 1940-1995 As Human CO2 Emissions Rates Rose 600%
Flashback 1939: Scientist warns of ‘catastrophic collapse’ of Greenland’s ice
Flashback 1947: Warming in Arctic, Antarctic & Greenland to cause sea level ‘rise in catastrophic proportions’
President Trump to 60 Minutes: “But it (climate change) could very well go back. You know, we’re talking about over a … millions of years.”
Reality Check: Once again, President Trump is
accurately citing Earth’s history. The climate has varied over billions
of years, millions of years, hundreds of thousands of years, thousands
of years, hundreds of years and decades.
Ivy League geologist Robert Giegengack, former chairman of the Department of Earth and Environmental Science at the University of Pennsylvania, spoke out against fears of rising CO2 impacts promoted by Al Gore and others. Giegengack noted that “for most of Earth’s history, the globe has been warmer than it has been for the last 200 years. It has rarely been cooler.” He explained: “[Gore] claims that temperature increases solely because more CO2 in the atmosphere traps the sun’s heat. That’s just wrong … It’s a natural interplay. As temperature rises, CO2 rises, and vice versa. … It’s hard for us to say that CO2 drives temperature. It’s easier to say temperature drives CO2.”
In 2014, Giegengack told Climate Depot: “The Earth has experienced very few periods when CO2 was lower than it is today.”
Paper finds the Alps were nearly ice-free 2000 years ago during the Roman Warming Period
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President Trump to 60 Minutes: “They say that we had
hurricanes that were far worse than what we just had with Michael,”
said Trump, who identified “they” as “people” after being pressed by “60
Minutes” correspondent Leslie Stahl.
Reality Check: Bravo, President Trump. The “they” that President Trump is referring to even include the UN IPCC reports! See:
UN IPCC Report Admits Extreme Weather Events Have Not Increased
Meteorologist Joe Bastardi explains Hurricane Michael: ‘This is not climate change’
Extreme Weather Expert Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.: Category 4+ land-falling hurricanes have decreased over 70% since 1970
Sen Schumer goes full witchcraft: ‘If We Would Do More on Climate Change, We’d Have Fewer of These Hurricanes’ – Schumer claims: Human Beings Could Reduce Frequency of Hurricanes
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President Trump to 60 Minutes: Stahl asked Trump,
“What about the scientists who say it’s worse than ever?” the president
replied, “You’d have to show me the scientists because they have a very
big political agenda.”
Reality Check: Yes! Once again, President Trump is
correct. ‘Global warming’ fears are predicated on “a very big political
agenda” and that agenda is pushed hard by the activist scientists. See:
Media touts UN IPCC as World’s Top Scientists — But who are they? Answer: Activists
German Climate Scientist Accuses IPCC Of Alarmism: Calls climate fears ‘fictional’
New
UN IPCC report warns of yet another tipping point! Give UN trillions or
we die! Trump ‘poses the single greatest threat’ to climate
The following is an excerpt from the new 2018 best-selling book, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change.
Prof. John Brignell: “The creation of the UN IPCC was a cataclysmic event in the history of science. Here was a purely political body posing as a scientific institution. Through the power of patronage, it rapidly attracted acolytes. ‘Peer review’ soon rapidly evolved from the old style refereeing to a much more sinister imposition of The Censorship.”
Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning environmental physical chemist from Japan, is another UN IPCC scientist who has turned his back on the UN climate panel. Kiminori declared that global warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history….When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.”
UN IPCC chief Rajendra Pachauri admitted the IPCC is an arm of world governments and serves at their “beck and call.” “We are an intergovernmental body and we do what the governments of the world want us to do,” Pachauri told the Guardian in 2013.
In 2012, a year before the report came out, former UN climate chief Yvo de Boer announced that the next IPCC report “is going to scare the wits out of everyone.” He added, “I’m confident those scientific findings will create new political momentum.”
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The following is an excerpt from the new 2018 best-selling book, The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change.
Prof. John Brignell: “The creation of the UN IPCC was a cataclysmic event in the history of science. Here was a purely political body posing as a scientific institution. Through the power of patronage, it rapidly attracted acolytes. ‘Peer review’ soon rapidly evolved from the old style refereeing to a much more sinister imposition of The Censorship.”
Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning environmental physical chemist from Japan, is another UN IPCC scientist who has turned his back on the UN climate panel. Kiminori declared that global warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history….When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.”
UN IPCC chief Rajendra Pachauri admitted the IPCC is an arm of world governments and serves at their “beck and call.” “We are an intergovernmental body and we do what the governments of the world want us to do,” Pachauri told the Guardian in 2013.
In 2012, a year before the report came out, former UN climate chief Yvo de Boer announced that the next IPCC report “is going to scare the wits out of everyone.” He added, “I’m confident those scientific findings will create new political momentum.”
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UN IPCC is ‘a purely political body posing as a scientific institution’
Statement by Marc Morano, publisher of Climate Depot and
author of the 2018 new book: “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate
Change.” –
Morano: “The UN claims they were struggling with how bad to convey
the allegedly ‘grim’ news about climate change. But what the media is
not telling the public is these UN climate reports are self-serving
reports that have predetermined outcomes. The UN hypes the climate
‘problem’ then puts itself in charge of the ‘solution.’ And the
mainstream media goes along with such unmitigated nonsense. The UN even
leaks their true motivation with these reports, calling for “rapid,
far-reaching and unprecedented changes in all aspects of society.
My new book details the many UN scientists who have resigned and
turned against the UN. The UN IPCC has admitted these “solutions’ they
are advocating for have nothing to do with science. Scientists are not
impressed with this latest UN attempt this week to re-engineer every
aspect of human life.
The Associated Press’ Seth Borenstein has attempted to bolster the scientific credentials of the UN IPCC, Borenstein wrote on October 7: “The
Nobel Prize-winning Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change issued
its gloomy report at a meeting in Incheon, South Korea.” But what
Borenstein leaves out is that the UN IPCC won the Nobel PEACE Prize for
political activism, not a Nobel scientific award. And there is a good
reason why the UN IPCC won’t be winning any Nobel prizes for science.
See below.
The UN IPCC is at it again and the media is drooling over the alarm. See:
- UN issues yet another climate tipping point – Humans given only 12 more years to make ‘unprecedented changes in all aspects of society’ – But as the new book, “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change”, reveals, climate tipping points have a long history of repetition, moved deadlines and utter failure. The book documents that the earliest climate “tipping point” was issued in 1864 by MIT professor who warned of “climatic excess” unless humans changed their ways.
- UN scientist claims Trump ‘poses the single greatest threat’ to Earth’s climate – A former UN lead author of the United Nations climate reports, Dr. Michael Mann, has ramped up the stakes of the new “dire” UN climate change report by claiming the “latest [UN] report underscores the danger that [President] Donald Trump poses to the planet.” The UN report “makes clear we need to reduce emissions dramatically, vastly exceeding our Paris targets. Yet Trump probably poses the single greatest threat to meeting those targets,” Mann, a Penn State professor, told ThinkProgress on October 8.
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UN issues yet another climate tipping point – Humans given only 12 more years to make ‘unprecedented changes in all aspects of society’
The new book, “The Politically Incorrect Guide to Climate Change”,
reveals, climate tipping points have a long history of repetition,
moved deadlines and utter failure. The book documents that the earliest
climate “tipping point” was issued in 1864 by MIT professor who warned
of “climatic excess” unless humans changed their ways.
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