Here we have the mass of bronze age evidence in both the Baltic, SE USA and Lake Superior and they are all of the same tradition. Now i have been saying this for a long time, but this is the conformation needed.
It also powerfully conforms to the placement of the Iliad in the Baltic as argued recently by Da Vinci. The siege of Troy in Finland took place around 1179 BC, or a mere generation before the end of the Bronze Age itself in 1159 BC..
We also see the the conformation of the use of ox hide copper ingots. These were ideal for the primitive mining of copper. Copper was ultimately smelted in some form of a bronze urn until the copper was melted. It was then flooded into a depression in sand formed by pressing an ox hide into sand.
Add in our additional knowledge of the great circle route that brought shipping into the Isle of Lewis from Bimini and ultimately back into the Mediterranean. Lewis links easily across the North Sea to the Baltic and its manpower or seamen as well. ..
Archeological Mysteries that bothered me from age 23 until the year 2017 with Richard Thornton
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Why would the same ancient symbols, mounds and copper artifacts be in Cartersville, Georgia and Landskrona, Sweden?
A year ago, this topic would have seemed irrelevant to the study of the Southeastern indigenous peoples, but now is very relevant. You see . . . On the afternoon of June 7, four days after graduating from Georgia Tech, I saw symbols, carved on the ancient boulders of Ven Island that are endemic in the art and petroglyphs of the Uchee, Creek and Chickasaw homeland. Soon, I saw copper artifacts, oxhide shaped copper ingots and cord-marked Beaker Style pottery in the Bronze Age museums of southern Sweden and Denmark that I had seen two years earlier, when Arthur Kelly and Lewis Larson gave my architectural history class a tour of Etowah Mounds. The city, where I lived, on the Oresund Channel was ringed with burial and ceremonial mounds identical to those in the Southeast and Ohio Valley. How could this be?
Sankta Birgitta Kapell Gravhög near Landskrona was originally a Bronze Age worship site, then an Iron Age Alla Thing then became a Christian church. At the base of Swedish and Southeastern Early Woodland Period mounds are log tombs. Most of these mounds were surrounded by a ditch in both continents. Sankta Birgitta Kapell Gravhög means “Saint Bridget’s Chapel Mound” in English.
It’s 8° F. outside and was 34° in my bedroom, when I reluctantly crawled out from under six quilts. Jack frost on the inside of the windows created a beautiful scene like in the movie, “Dr. Zhivago.” Such character-building environments drives the brain into a frenzy of deductive reasoning . . . and also are a major deterrent to coming down with the colds and flus that many folks in more comfortable environments are enduring.
Why would the same mounds, sacred symbols and copper artifacts be found in southern Scandinavia and the Southern Highlands of the United States from the same time period? The conical burial tombs of southern Scandinavia, the Southeastern United States and Ohio Valley all contained log lined tombs. It made no sense.
The Great Sun symbol appeared on the Nyköping, Sweden petroglyphs (2000 BC) then the Track Rock, GA petroglyphs (1200 BC?) then 1200 years later among the Mayas.
No books could explain this mystery. Oh yes . . . there were a legion of books, published in the 1960s and 1970s, which were based on the premise that the peoples of southern Europe, the Middle East and North Africa were genetically and religiously superior to indigenous Americans . . . therefore, all advanced culture had to come from either the Old World or extraterrestrial worlds. The best-known authors on this subject were Erich von Däniken and Barry Fell.
However, this was not what I was seeing. What I saw was the same civilization on both sides of the Atlantic at the same time . . . about 4500 to 3000 years ago. The similarity was even more enigmatic because there was no copper mined in Scandinavia until around two centuries ago, yet obviously these people had access to large quantities of copper and the wealth to pay for it. The archaeologists working for the City of Landskrona, Sweden had no clue where the copper came from that produced the lodes of artifacts on Ven Island. They assumed that the copper came from the Alps or Iberia, but they really had no scientific way to trace the source at that time.
Copper weapons and tools found in northern Michigan include standard European sicles for harvesting wheat and barley! Now explain that!
Even up to the present, Gringo archaeologists tell the public that there is no evidence of cultural contact between Bronze Age Europe and North America. Horse manure! Over the past few years, I have found archaeological reports by highly respected 20th century archaeologists such as Philip White, Robert Wauchope and James Ford, who found bronze tools and weapons in several Woodland Period sites in Georgia. During the late 19th century, quasi-archaeologists, employed by the Smithsonian Institute, found bronze axes and copper/bronze/iron smelting furnaces in North Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia.
Even during their Bronze Age, however, Scandinavians relied heavily on stone tools and weapons. They used stone mauls (sledge hammers), flint blades and often flint arrowheads. Fine gold, copper and bronze art was reserved for the elite families. Therefore the stone mauls and flint tools, found in the ancient copper mines of northern Michigan does not mean that the copper was only mined by indigenous peoples, whose ancestors came from northeastern Siberia.
https://peopleofonefire.com/mysteries-that-bothered-me-from-age-23-until-the-year-2017.html
Why would the same ancient symbols, mounds and copper artifacts be in Cartersville, Georgia and Landskrona, Sweden?
A year ago, this topic would have seemed irrelevant to the study of the Southeastern indigenous peoples, but now is very relevant. You see . . . On the afternoon of June 7, four days after graduating from Georgia Tech, I saw symbols, carved on the ancient boulders of Ven Island that are endemic in the art and petroglyphs of the Uchee, Creek and Chickasaw homeland. Soon, I saw copper artifacts, oxhide shaped copper ingots and cord-marked Beaker Style pottery in the Bronze Age museums of southern Sweden and Denmark that I had seen two years earlier, when Arthur Kelly and Lewis Larson gave my architectural history class a tour of Etowah Mounds. The city, where I lived, on the Oresund Channel was ringed with burial and ceremonial mounds identical to those in the Southeast and Ohio Valley. How could this be?
Sankta Birgitta Kapell Gravhög near Landskrona was originally a Bronze Age worship site, then an Iron Age Alla Thing then became a Christian church. At the base of Swedish and Southeastern Early Woodland Period mounds are log tombs. Most of these mounds were surrounded by a ditch in both continents. Sankta Birgitta Kapell Gravhög means “Saint Bridget’s Chapel Mound” in English.
It’s 8° F. outside and was 34° in my bedroom, when I reluctantly crawled out from under six quilts. Jack frost on the inside of the windows created a beautiful scene like in the movie, “Dr. Zhivago.” Such character-building environments drives the brain into a frenzy of deductive reasoning . . . and also are a major deterrent to coming down with the colds and flus that many folks in more comfortable environments are enduring.
Why would the same mounds, sacred symbols and copper artifacts be found in southern Scandinavia and the Southern Highlands of the United States from the same time period? The conical burial tombs of southern Scandinavia, the Southeastern United States and Ohio Valley all contained log lined tombs. It made no sense.
The Great Sun symbol appeared on the Nyköping, Sweden petroglyphs (2000 BC) then the Track Rock, GA petroglyphs (1200 BC?) then 1200 years later among the Mayas.
No books could explain this mystery. Oh yes . . . there were a legion of books, published in the 1960s and 1970s, which were based on the premise that the peoples of southern Europe, the Middle East and North Africa were genetically and religiously superior to indigenous Americans . . . therefore, all advanced culture had to come from either the Old World or extraterrestrial worlds. The best-known authors on this subject were Erich von Däniken and Barry Fell.
However, this was not what I was seeing. What I saw was the same civilization on both sides of the Atlantic at the same time . . . about 4500 to 3000 years ago. The similarity was even more enigmatic because there was no copper mined in Scandinavia until around two centuries ago, yet obviously these people had access to large quantities of copper and the wealth to pay for it. The archaeologists working for the City of Landskrona, Sweden had no clue where the copper came from that produced the lodes of artifacts on Ven Island. They assumed that the copper came from the Alps or Iberia, but they really had no scientific way to trace the source at that time.
Copper weapons and tools found in northern Michigan include standard European sicles for harvesting wheat and barley! Now explain that!
Even up to the present, Gringo archaeologists tell the public that there is no evidence of cultural contact between Bronze Age Europe and North America. Horse manure! Over the past few years, I have found archaeological reports by highly respected 20th century archaeologists such as Philip White, Robert Wauchope and James Ford, who found bronze tools and weapons in several Woodland Period sites in Georgia. During the late 19th century, quasi-archaeologists, employed by the Smithsonian Institute, found bronze axes and copper/bronze/iron smelting furnaces in North Carolina, Tennessee and West Virginia.
Even during their Bronze Age, however, Scandinavians relied heavily on stone tools and weapons. They used stone mauls (sledge hammers), flint blades and often flint arrowheads. Fine gold, copper and bronze art was reserved for the elite families. Therefore the stone mauls and flint tools, found in the ancient copper mines of northern Michigan does not mean that the copper was only mined by indigenous peoples, whose ancestors came from northeastern Siberia.
Perhaps the most mysterious connection between eastern North America and Scandinavia was the shape of copper ingots that were transported by traders. It is an odd shape that anthropologists call “oxhide ingots.” It seems highly improbable that peoples in Scandinavia and the Southern Appalachians in North America would independently come up with this seemingly non-utilitarian shape for their respective copper trades.
Genetics was at its infancy then, so no one knew that the aboriginal people of Scandinavia, Ireland and Scotland looked like mixed blood Southeastern indigenous Americans. The red or blond hair of Scandinavians today actually came from southeastern Iran. Their language came from peoples in northern Germany and the Netherlands, who used their iron weapons to become the overlords of the indigenous Scandinavians.
The significance of Ven Island.
Sanct Ibbs Kyrka on Ven Island, Sweden
The reason that a video of Ven Island was included in the previous POOF article was that I thought it was important for readers to see exactly what southern Scandinavia looks like. This was the center of the Scandinavian Bronze Age civilization, which called itself Skåne. The word Scandinavia is derived from Skåne. The people of Skåne and Sjælland originally spoke a language called Skånska. Today, Skånska is merely a regional dialect of Swedish, but it has peculiar pronunciations of words, which harken back to its Red Haired Mariner roots.
The people of the Skåne Province in Sweden and Sjælland in Denmark have the highest percentage of the ancient DNA of the “Red Haired, Blue-eyed Mariners,” who originated in southeastern Iran, but ended up in such diverse places as southern Scandinavia, Scotland, Ireland, Peru and New Zealand. It is ironic that Zealand is the English version of Sjælland. There is no way that the original British colonists in New Zealand would have known that the first humans there were Red Haired Mariners from Sjælland.
Almost all Scandinavians and Finns thought that I was a Sjø Sami (full blooded Norwegian Maritime Lapp) because they look like a Uchee or perhaps a mixed blood Creek or Chickasaw! While I was wandering through Lapland, tourists, even Sami tourists, would often stop to ask me directions.
The landscape of Ven Island today is pretty much as it appeared in the 1600s. During the Bronze Age, when it was the heart of Skåne the island would have held large herds of cattle, sheep and goats, belonging to the jarls or nobility.
Ven or Hven in Danish, is a pre-Germanic word meaning “grass or meadow.” Venland means “grass land or pasture land.” That’s right. Vinland (aka the maritime provinces of Canada) was given that name by Viking explorers, because their coastal areas are primarily grass prairies . . . a location ideal for grazing sheep, goats and cattle.
During the Middle Ages and early Renaissance Ven and the nearby Duchy of Skåne were ruled by Denmark. In 1658, Sweden captured Skåne and Ven Island. Much in the same genre as Southerners long flew Confederate flags to announce their distinct identity, the people of Skåne for over four centuries have insisted on flying their former national flag. There are a lot of red-haired people in both Dixie and Skåne. People in the other parts of Sweden though have found this patriotism toward a long extinct nation very irritating, but finally gave in. On November 17, 2017 the Swedish Riksdag (Parliament) formally recognized this flag as the official flag of Skåne, which is now merely a large county.
Fotbol (soccer) fans from Malmö (Skåne) Sweden wave the Skånsk flag and sing their fight song . . . sung to the tune of “Rambling Wreck from Georgia Tech.”
Another “urban legend” squelched
Denmark’s name is NOT proof that the Tribe of Dan of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel settled in southern Scandinavia. Someone, who knew nothing about Scandinavian languages, first created this “urban legend” when he or she discovered that the real name of Denmark is Danmark.
Dan is derived from the Skånska word, dän (pronounced like den) which means “flat lowland.” British English has the same meaning for its word, den . . . obviously inherited from the Danish Vikings, who conquered the eastern half of England.
Mark is of Indo-European and Latin origin, but in Danska and Skånska means “a wooded borderland or political boundary.” Thus, Danmark means “wooded, low flat country.”
Hamlet’s castle: The brick castle seen several times in the video filmed on Ven Island was Helsingør . . . Prince Hamlet’s castle on the coast of Denmark.
The white church on Ven Island is Sanct Ibbs Kyrka . . . the oldest Christian church in Scandinavia. It was built on top of a Bronze Age stone circle (as in the stone circles in North Georgia) which became a Iron Age (Viking) Alla Thinger (All Things) or meeting place for local government and trials. Now you know why the Scots use the word Kyrk instead of church. That word came from the Vikings.
Genetics was at its infancy then, so no one knew that the aboriginal people of Scandinavia, Ireland and Scotland looked like mixed blood Southeastern indigenous Americans. The red or blond hair of Scandinavians today actually came from southeastern Iran. Their language came from peoples in northern Germany and the Netherlands, who used their iron weapons to become the overlords of the indigenous Scandinavians.
The significance of Ven Island.
Sanct Ibbs Kyrka on Ven Island, Sweden
The reason that a video of Ven Island was included in the previous POOF article was that I thought it was important for readers to see exactly what southern Scandinavia looks like. This was the center of the Scandinavian Bronze Age civilization, which called itself Skåne. The word Scandinavia is derived from Skåne. The people of Skåne and Sjælland originally spoke a language called Skånska. Today, Skånska is merely a regional dialect of Swedish, but it has peculiar pronunciations of words, which harken back to its Red Haired Mariner roots.
The people of the Skåne Province in Sweden and Sjælland in Denmark have the highest percentage of the ancient DNA of the “Red Haired, Blue-eyed Mariners,” who originated in southeastern Iran, but ended up in such diverse places as southern Scandinavia, Scotland, Ireland, Peru and New Zealand. It is ironic that Zealand is the English version of Sjælland. There is no way that the original British colonists in New Zealand would have known that the first humans there were Red Haired Mariners from Sjælland.
Almost all Scandinavians and Finns thought that I was a Sjø Sami (full blooded Norwegian Maritime Lapp) because they look like a Uchee or perhaps a mixed blood Creek or Chickasaw! While I was wandering through Lapland, tourists, even Sami tourists, would often stop to ask me directions.
The landscape of Ven Island today is pretty much as it appeared in the 1600s. During the Bronze Age, when it was the heart of Skåne the island would have held large herds of cattle, sheep and goats, belonging to the jarls or nobility.
Ven or Hven in Danish, is a pre-Germanic word meaning “grass or meadow.” Venland means “grass land or pasture land.” That’s right. Vinland (aka the maritime provinces of Canada) was given that name by Viking explorers, because their coastal areas are primarily grass prairies . . . a location ideal for grazing sheep, goats and cattle.
During the Middle Ages and early Renaissance Ven and the nearby Duchy of Skåne were ruled by Denmark. In 1658, Sweden captured Skåne and Ven Island. Much in the same genre as Southerners long flew Confederate flags to announce their distinct identity, the people of Skåne for over four centuries have insisted on flying their former national flag. There are a lot of red-haired people in both Dixie and Skåne. People in the other parts of Sweden though have found this patriotism toward a long extinct nation very irritating, but finally gave in. On November 17, 2017 the Swedish Riksdag (Parliament) formally recognized this flag as the official flag of Skåne, which is now merely a large county.
Fotbol (soccer) fans from Malmö (Skåne) Sweden wave the Skånsk flag and sing their fight song . . . sung to the tune of “Rambling Wreck from Georgia Tech.”
Another “urban legend” squelched
Denmark’s name is NOT proof that the Tribe of Dan of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel settled in southern Scandinavia. Someone, who knew nothing about Scandinavian languages, first created this “urban legend” when he or she discovered that the real name of Denmark is Danmark.
Dan is derived from the Skånska word, dän (pronounced like den) which means “flat lowland.” British English has the same meaning for its word, den . . . obviously inherited from the Danish Vikings, who conquered the eastern half of England.
Mark is of Indo-European and Latin origin, but in Danska and Skånska means “a wooded borderland or political boundary.” Thus, Danmark means “wooded, low flat country.”
Hamlet’s castle: The brick castle seen several times in the video filmed on Ven Island was Helsingør . . . Prince Hamlet’s castle on the coast of Denmark.
The white church on Ven Island is Sanct Ibbs Kyrka . . . the oldest Christian church in Scandinavia. It was built on top of a Bronze Age stone circle (as in the stone circles in North Georgia) which became a Iron Age (Viking) Alla Thinger (All Things) or meeting place for local government and trials. Now you know why the Scots use the word Kyrk instead of church. That word came from the Vikings.
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