It is time, perhaps, to talk about all this. No currency has any intrinsic value whatsoever except determined by human demand. Everything else said is smoke and mirrors.
This also applies to GOLD!!! Folks love to own gold. I estimate that everyone would keep several ounces on hand even if it were worth nothing. Thus we would need around 2,000,000 tons to make everyone happy or ten times available supply.
That at least gives us a scale for our human demand capability.
Now it appears that we have a valid replacement for all forms of currency that satisfies that human demand for an exchange currency while also saving us from confiscation as we experience through inflation. Better yet it is extraterritorial and and resides in the global internet.
By now it has truly proven itself and appears immune to smash and grab exploitation. That also means that the float value can easily exceed that of GOLD. This will still take time but can only be achieved through price appreciation which we see happening.
Recall the public can participate with some form of small lot supplier handily enough.
Recent trading has finally introduced volatility which will allow a broad base to be established and a steady increase in participation and improving access. This is no cause for concern whatsoever but actually very healthy as it improves holder quality.
I have more to say, but the Fed is quite right to be concerned as an improved currency drives out lessor currencies. Cost effective Bitcoin access allows money and credit to jump across borders freely as is already happening. Global acceptance means a major consumer breakthrough in spending and even earning power.
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Crypto Carnage Continues As The Fed Warns Digital Currencies Could "Pose Serious Financial Stability Issues"
by Tyler Durden
Nov 30, 2017 6:27 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-30/cryptos-are-crashing-again
Update: Bitcoin and Ethereum are holding at the lows of the day, but following ECB comments earlier (see below), The Fed's vice chariman of supervision, Randy Quarles, warns that digital currencies like bitcoin pose "serious financial stability issues" as they grow...
Today, the vast majority of our payments by volume and value are processed by regulated financial institutions. In the U.S. payment system, digital currencies are a niche product that sometimes garners large headlines.While these digital currencies may not pose major concerns at their current levels of use, more serious financial stability issues may result if they achieve wide-scale usage.
Perhaps most ironic is Quarles' description of the 'drawbacks' of cryptocurrencies...
But from the standpoint of analysis, the "currency" or asset at the center of some of these systems is not backed by other secure assets, has no intrinsic value, is not the liability of a regulated banking institution, and in leading cases, is not the liability of any institution at all. Indeed, how to treat and define this new asset is complicated.
So because it's not backed by 'other secure assets' - analysing its value is complicated... like the dollar.
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It's a bloodbath in cryptocurrency markets this morning...
Having bounced overnight to over $10,600, Bitcoin prices are tumbling once again as we approach the US equity market open...
Ethereum is down over 20%...
While there is no immediate catalyst, CoinDesk notes that ECB Vice President Vitor Constancio - ever eager to talk citizens away from decentralized 'anything' - warned about the risks of investing in bitcoin at current valuations.
Speaking to CNBC, Vitor Constancio said developments in bitcoin's price make it "a speculative asset by definition," continuing: "Investors are taking that risk of buying at such high prices."
Even so, Constancio told CNBC that the ECB is not in a position to regulate the cryptocurrency, saying, "We don't have responsibility or even instruments that point to particular prices of particular assets, that is certainly not the role of central banks."
His comments echo those of ECB president Mario Draghi, who in September indicated that the central bank does not have the authority to regulate cryptocurrencies.
"It would actually not be in our powers to prohibit and regulate" bitcoin and other digital currencies, he said at the time.
However, on the more optimistic side, CoinTelegraph reports that Ronnie Moas has upped his End 2017 target for Bitcoin to $20,000.
Moas looks at Bitcoin as a whole, incorporating all the chain splits in his split-adjusted price is and considering the price of the forked Bitcoin chains alongside the original was $12,740 when Moas made his new prediction, $14,000 looked undervalued again.
$20,000 is a month away
Moas now puts the line in the sand at $20,000 for the split-adjusted price when the new year hits. Looking at how things have gone so far for Moas, a month is a long time, and perhaps $20,000 will be broken before that time.
Many pickers, investors and money movers have thrown their hats into the ring trying to hit the sweet spot of this volatile asset when it comes to prediction.
Tom Lee, rather conservatively, set a Bitcoin growth of 40 percent to happen by the middle of 2018. His prediction put him at $11,500. That prediction was made a week ago, and in that time Bitcoin topped at around $11,300.
Max Keiser has a much more bullish view, but over a longer time frame as the host of Russia Today’s Keiser Report believes that $100,000 Bitcoin is an eventuality.
Why split-adjusted?
Moas, as one of the most well-regarded stock pickers, is clearly in the Bitcoin game for its investment potential rather than the technology side which has seen different factions at war with each other. Some people are vehemently Bitcoin Cash supporters, and others true fans of the original chain.
Moas, however, with his investor’s hat on, sees that by buying Bitcoin he not only received free Bitcoin Cash, but also free Bitcoin Gold, and thus counts them together in his portfolio, urging others to d the same as a diversification strategy.
Bitcoin Diamond and the real gold
“I am raising my 2018 fork- and split-adjusted price target on Bitcoin from $14,000 to $20,000,” Moas explained. “The current price is $10,720 and the split-adjusted price is now $12,740 when factoring in Bitcoin Cash, Bitcoin Gold and Bitcoin Diamond.”
Bitcoin Diamond is another fork of the Bitcoin chain that went largely unnoticed. Its aim is to switch from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake after mining is completed - after just 10,000 blocks.
“Bitcoin is now up split-adjusted by 394 percent since my July 3 recommendation,” Moas went on.“There is no way to justify Gold $7 tln at 40X Bitcoin ($180 bln). An argument can be made that Bitcoin will be equal to Gold within 10-15 years. I do not know how much Gold there is in the ground … I do not know how much Bitcoin there is.”
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