What is destroying capitalism is its penchant for gaming monopolies
and stifling competition and innovation. The expedient of setting
the tax universe to powerfully over tax the cost of capital for the
capital rich is likely able to end this abuse.
Recall that large capital accesses cheaper money than a small dynamic
growing business. It is no trick to establish the cost of capital
and to then tax away the advantage. It is not particularly onerous,
but assembling for the sake of assembling becomes unattractive and
will only be driven then by specific business rationalization.
Such a formula would quickly see the too big to fail enterprises
unwind in a hurry when their smaller competitors have a few hundred
extra basis points to work with.
The real problem of capital has been the simple access to capital
which has been rationed by the King to his buddies. Micro banking
has shown us that there are alternatives that work and empower.
If the entire population is a natural member of an economic
cooperative whose size is not in excess of 200 individuals and has
access to sufficient capital to prosper with lending managed by a
group of internal peers, then it is reasonable that all these issues
will in time resolve simply because we have a working balance.
Is There an Alternative for
Capitalist Economics and Politics? Richard Wolff Says Yes
Tuesday,
08 January 2013 09:18
By Mark
Karlin,
"Imagine
a country where the majority of the population reaps the majority of
the benefits for their hard work, creative ingenuity and
collaborative efforts. Imagine a country where corporate losses
aren't socialized, while gains are captured by an exclusive minority.
Imagine a country run as a democracy, from the bottom up, not a
plutocracy from the top down. Richard Wolff not only imagines it, but
in his compelling, captivating and stunningly reasoned new book,
Democracy at Work, he details how we get there from here - and why we
absolutely must."
-- Nomi Prins, Author of It Takes a Pillage and Black Tuesday
Few
are better equipped than economist Richard Wolff, professor emeritus
at the University of Massachusetts, to address the massive failings
and inequalities of capitalism as he does in his latest
book, Democracy
at Work: A Cure for Capitalism.
He
also describes Workers' Self-Directed Enterprises (WSDEs) as an
alternative to the capitalism that broke the US economy and has
resulted in massive economic redistribution to the ruling elites.
Mark
Karlin: In your book, what is the distinction between capitalism and
welfare state capitalism?
Richard
Wolff:
Capitalism, like all other economic systems, displays a variety of
forms. There are, for example, largely private, laissez-faire kinds
of capitalism that differ in many ways from forms of capitalism in
which the state plays more significant roles, such as market
regulator or social welfare guarantor (as in "state welfare
capitalism"), or as a close partner of capitalists as in
fascism. What
remains the same across all such forms - why they all deserve the
label "capitalist" - is the exclusion of the mass of
workers that produces the output and generates the profits from
receiving and distributing that profit,
and from generally participating democratically in enterprise
decisions. Capitalism excludes workers from deciding what is
produced, how it is produced, where it is produced and how profits
are to be used and distributed. Democracy
at Work is
a critique and alternative aimed at changing that exclusion shared by
all these forms of capitalism.
Mark
Karlin: In that regard, what do you think about the contention that
FDR was not at all an opponent of capitalism, but simply saw that
some government intervention was necessary in the US economy in order
to save capitalism during the depression of the '30s?
Richard
Wolff: What
FDR saw was the political might of the coalition of unionists
(galvanized by the CIO in the middle 1930's), socialist and communist
parties demanding that government not only bail out the banks and
corporations, but also directly help the mass of people suffering the
Great Depression. Elements within that coalition threatened that
Washington's failure to respond to do so would turn many millions of
US citizens against capitalism. FDR got the message and crafted a
deal in response. The government would both tax and borrow from
corporations and the rich to fund the new Social Security system,
national unemployment insurance, and a vast program of federal
hiring. In return, the coalition would downplay its anti-capitalism
and celebrate instead the achievement of a welfare state type of
capitalism. The coalition mostly accepted this New Deal. FDR went on
to win four consecutive presidential elections making him the most
popular president in US history. The New Deal saved the capitalist
system by changing its form from a relatively more laissez-faire
[form]to a welfare-type state.
Mark
Karlin: Before the recent crash, what was the capitalist crisis from
above and below that you describe in the book?
Richard
Wolff:
The crisis from above refers to the speculative mania indulged by the
small minority of people (major holders of corporate securities,
boards of directors, their professional staffs, etc.) who gathered
increasing profits into their hands as wages stagnated after the
mid-1970s. Financial enterprises competed for the funds accumulating
in this minority's hands by taking ever-greater risks with old and
new (e.g. asset-backed securities, credit default swaps, etc.)
financial instruments. Another
in the long history of capitalist speculative manias built a bubble
on the back of the rising debt of the US working class. When the
latter's debt burden could no longer be serviced, the bubble burst,
adding the crisis from above to that built from below by the lethal
mixture of stagnant wages and rising debts.
Mark
Karlin: How does the distribution of surpluses in revenue (profits)
in business enterprises affect the economic structure of a society?
Richard
Wolff:
The surplus generated by enterprises - the excess of revenue from
commodity sales over the direct costs of producing those commodities
- is what capitalists receive and control in capitalist economies.
They then distribute those surpluses as they see fit to reproduce the
system in which they occupy such exalted positions. Thus, for
example, they distribute some of the surplus to top corporate
officials (shaping the distribution of income and wealth in
capitalist societies), some to moving production abroad if, when and
where that might generate larger surpluses (producing unemployment at
home and growth abroad), some to donations to politicians and parties
to shape and control political decisions to serve their needs, and so
on. The distribution of the surplus is thus a major shaper of how our
society works, how we all live.
Mark
Karlin: During the last few years, particularly during and after the
Occupy movement, many of the masters of the universe on Wall Street
trumpeted their alleged intellectual capital, as if capitalism was
equal to being the smartest guys on the block. In this bragging
rights boasting, it can be inferred that workers are interchangeable
parts of a machine and should be grateful to those with "intellectual
capital." How do you respond to that claim?
Richard
Wolff:
Intellectual capital is just the latest name for an old idea that has
long been recognized as a crucial part of production. In the past,
other names included "know how" and "technology"
and "expertise." The basic idea was that in addition to the
tools, equipment, machines and raw materials that go into production,
and in addition to the muscles and energy people contribute to
production, there is the mental capacity to think, to adjust
behavior, to invent new things and new ways of working - that is also
crucial to production. To build that "intellectual capital"
is one purpose of schooling. Of course, everyone in the production
process can bring his or her intellectual capital into the production
process if that process is organized to welcome, recognize, reward
and stimulate that. When people suggest that only executives or
financiers have or apply "intellectual capital," that is
one sure way to discourage and reduce the application of workers'
intellectual capital to production.
Mark
Karlin: Refreshingly, you offer a key alternative to capitalism in
decline. You promote Workers' Self-Directed Enterprises (WSDE) in
Part III of your book. What would be a succinct description of a
WSDE?
Richard
Wolff:
Quite simply, a WSDE entails the workers who make whatever a
corporation sells also functioning - collectively and democratically
- as their own board of directors. WSDEs thereby abolish the
capitalist differentiation and opposition of surplus producers versus
surplus appropriators. Instead, the workers themselves cooperatively
run their own enterprise, thereby bringing democracy inside the
enterprise where capitalism had long excluded it.
Mark
Karlin: In your sixth chapter, you contrast WSDEs with worker-owned
enterprises, worker-managed enterprises and cooperatives. What are
the primary differences?
Richard
Wolff:
Workers have a long history of multiple kinds of cooperatives. That
is, workers can cooperatively own (e.g. their pension fund holds
shares in the company that employs them), buy (e.g. the many food
coops around the country), sell (e.g. grape growers who combine to
market their outputs), and manage (e.g. workers take turns
supervising themselves). All such cooperatives can and often do
co-exist with a capitalist organization of production in the precise
sense of workers being excluded from the decisions of what, how and
where to produce and what to do with the profits. What makes WSDEs
unique is precisely that they are about cooperative production, about
ending the capitalist division of producers from appropriators of the
surplus, and replacing it with democratic cooperative decisions
governing production and the social use of its fruits.
Mark
Karlin: Where does the much-celebrated (and world's largest)
Mondragon cooperative model fit in with your vision of WSDEs?
Richard
Wolff:
Mondragon
is the world's largest and perhaps most successful example of WSDEs'
successful growth in competition with conventional capitalist
enterprises. Begun in 1956 with six workers organized into a
cooperative enterprise by a Spanish priest, the Mondragon Cooperative
Corporation (MCC) now employs over 100,000 workers, is the largest
corporation in the Basque part of Spain and the tenth largest
corporation in all of Spain. It
has extensive research and development labs generating new ways to
produce new products and maintains its own university to train its
workers and interested others in all the ways of running and building
democratically cooperative enterprises. MCC is thus a remarkable
testimony to the contemporary viability and strength of
non-capitalist production systems.
Mark
Karlin: I recently asked this question in another interview on labor
and economics and received an answer that amounted to a sigh.
Although there is definitely a growing cooperative movement in the
United States, it is still struggling. What will be the tipping point
that will persuade US workers that WSDEs are preferable to the
current managerial capitalist system? So many workers in the US have
been brainwashed that any alternative to capitalism is satanic and
communist. How does an idea like WSDEs change from an intellectual
concept to a grassroots labor movement?
Richard
Wolff:
As has happened often in human history, what provokes change is less
any clear vision of where we go next and more the intolerability of
where we are. Capitalism is no longer "delivering the goods"
for most people. The circle of its beneficiaries grows smaller and
richer and more out of touch with the mass of people than ever. In
the US, this is particularly problematic because the rationale of US
capitalism has long been its creating and sustenance of a vast
"middle class." As capitalism's evolution destroys that
middle class, it opens the space in minds and hearts to inquire after
alternatives to an increasingly unacceptable system. WSDEs offer
precisely that. Nothing better illustrates that growing interest than
the fact that Democracy
at Work is
going into a second printing three months after it was first
published.
Mark
Karlin: Republicans and Democrats both tout the alleged benefits of
free trade agreements, despite their lack of adequate support for
labor rights and worker remuneration. One thing that free trade
advocates claim is that by moving to lower-cost labor, products will
be cheaper in the US. While this may be true in some cases, this
hardly appears to be the case in name brand products (particularly
clothes) and trendy hi-tech products such as Apple. For instance, I
went to a retail store and looked at items made by Calvin Klein,
Nautica, and IZOD. Not one of the items, not one, was made in the
United States. Most were made in China and Southeast Asia. Supposing
we assume a worker who gets a few dollars a day produces a Nautica
polo shirt for $1. Add the costs of material and equipment and maybe
we get to $3. Add management and shipping and maybe we get to $5 per
shirt, maybe. But the retail price on upper end brand name polo
shirts could be as much as $70. So the shirt is not less expensive;
the company is just making a greater profit off of exploited labor
overseas. Is that correct?
Richard
Wolff:
When US corporations producing for the US market move existing (or
open new) production facilities overseas, their usual goal is more
profits. They relocate to exploit cheaper labor, lax environmental
rules, lower taxes, etc. If they lowered their prices, then the
cheaper labor, lax rules, and lower taxes would raise their profits
less or not at all. So they rarely drop prices much when they move
and then only temporarily to gain market share (thereby pressuring
competitors to similarly relocate). Of course, relocating
corporations could choose to lower their prices, but profit
considerations usually render that a last resort. Finally,
corporations in lower-cost overseas locations can usually more easily
manage competition among themselves than they do in the US (because
local rules against monopoly are less effective and relatively
low-cost bribes are more effective).
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